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Most in the Drupal Community are Better People Than I

Thursday, June 3, 2010

I've long said that there is a whole lot of feel-goodery in the Drupal community. It's taken me awhile to come to appreciate this fact, but I have in my own way. When I say feel-goodery, I mean that people are, for the most part, diplomatic and patient to a fault. There is a general sense of goodwill and a whole lot of back-patting. Which is great. It's infectious.

I, however, am totally not that person. I like to think of myself as a friendly person who gives credit where it is due and typically makes a net positive contribution to anything I involve myself in; which is a decision that I never take lightly. Something I lack that many in the community possess is diplomacy. When there are names to be named, I name them. If there is something that is on the collective mind but is not a palatable thing to say, I say it. It is for this reason that I don't get as involved in the Drupal NYC community as I would like to be.

Anyone reading this post probably doesn't need me to explain what a shit show the NYC community is and that litwol seems to enjoy stirring up problems from a deep-seated need for attention or something. It bothers me deeply and I am not the type to internalize as I fear some may. I have quite the opposite reaction - I fight. And that does not seem to be a reaction that would be viewed any more favorably than the original offense.

I watch these threads happen where the need to be diplomatic, not aggressively point fingers, etc gets in the way of solving the problem. Which is fine for a first offense but not a fiftieth. I know that crossing a line and asking someone to leave a community is a problematic solution. Where do you draw the line? We are an inclusive community! But there is a silent toll being paid here. I cannot be the only person that stays away as not to get caught up in the needless drama. In fact I'd wager a good deal that I am far from the only one.

I could respect the argument that it is counterproductive to stay away. But for me personally, my beliefs about how to react to ignorant, chauvinistic people are deeper than most anything I hold dear. I, like many women, have faced enough of these sorts of people for three lifetimes. And I think we've learned something. There is no changing their minds. They don't want to view the world differently. There is no fixing those who do not want to be fixed. So why bother with diplomacy? Because we are better than that and it is the right thing to do? These things are true, the latter in an ideal world, but they are not effective. And they are driving people away from a productive but wounded community.

So, like many situations that present themselves in life, I think the community has to make a tough choice. People who feed off of attention, even negative attention, will not just walk away when they are getting said attention by the bucketful. Asking an individual to step down from leadership responsibilities is an important first step, but as long as newcomers are confronted with the attitudes that sadly exist now, the community will continue to be wounded and many will be painted with this unfortunate brush.

So, until something improves, I'm going to shake my head, ignore applicable IRC channels and make an effort to be selectively involved with positive Drupal colleagues in NYC. But it is frankly not worth it for me to cause myself additional stress to be involved. Think of me as you will.

amen


"There is no changing their minds. They don't want to view the world differently. There is no fixing those who do not want to be fixed. So why bother with diplomacy? Because we are better than that and it is the right thing to do?"

+10000000. I'm so tired of taking the high road all the time-- it gets physically and emotionally exhausting after a while and there just doesn't seem to be anything to be gained from it.

"People who feed off of attention, even negative attention, will not just walk away when they are getting said attention by the bucketful."

Hallelujah. Based on this post, I am very much like you. When I see it I say it. And in this case, I am appalled not only that this has been allowed to continue all this time, but that the main person responsible is not only still a member of the community but in an elevated position. To me that says far more than all the unacceptable posts put together.

There is absolutely nothing to be gained here by tolerating this behavior and that there still even needs to be a discussion of it is, itself, unacceptable to me. Every time I even think about becoming more engaged with the community via IRC or in person, for that matter, it's crap like this that keeps me away.

As a female in IT, I have to deal with nonsense enough in my 'day job' which is unavoidable-- dealing with it in a volunteer capacity is avoidable. And probably why I'll never engage with the NY area community directly. :-(

Thank you

I really appreciated reading this post; thank you for it. I will admit that though I understand it, I am sad to hear that you will be staying away from some of the Drupal NYC spaces because it sucks to see less of us non-cisgendered-male folks in the community. Also, somewhat selfishly, because it's always encouraging to have other fighters and encouragers of tough but ultimately productive and responsible choices around. Hope to continue to see you around and hope to meet you sometime!

Thank you for replying. Part

Thank you for replying.

Part of me feels badly about being less involved but we all have to do what is best for us. It's very discouraging to watch SO many people speak up just to have the offenders vindicated. I hope that there comes a time where the community focuses on what it's ABOUT again.

I feel lucky to know many of the people I do via Drupal, many of those in NYC and am happy that I at least get to partake in those positive relationships without taking the baggage of the whole community.

I'm really glad that we've "met" and hope to do so officially sometime! You have boatloads of my respect.